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Planning and Administration (Serious Side of Scouting)
Troop Planning and Scout Participation Woes
This is a discussion brought up in an archived Scouting
Discussion Thread. All views expressed do not necessarily represent
the troop's position and stand.
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 07:40:42 -0400
From: "Paul H. Brown" <phbrown@CAPACCESS.ORG>
Subject: Troop Planning
How can I get my PLC to plan troop activities? It is time for an
annual planning conference, but the SPL and the rest of the PLC
aren't interested in planning. I suppose they think the SM will plan
a calendar, like he has in years past. Only, the SM isn't going to
do so. They may figure it out, or they may just play basketball
during troop meeting time.
Along similar lines, what can be done to encourage the PLC to
schedule some patrol activities, or inter-patrol competition, during
troop meeting time? The PLC acts as though patrols don't exist: only
the troop exists, with the SPL leading the meetings and the SM
biting his lip to keep quiet. Uniform wear is sporadic. Opening
ceremonies are invariably a recitation of the pledge, law, and oath.
(I've nothing against the pledge, law, or oath, but I've nothing
against some variety or creativity, either.)
The troop just completed the team building exercises and training
in the SM troop training materials, so the scouts know what is
expected (at least in theory).
All advice cheerfully considered.
All opinions not "borrowed" from unattributed sources
are my own.
Paul H. Brown, ASM T807, Great George Washington District, NCAC
phbrown@capaccess.org
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:54:22 -0500
From: ralph romig <rwromig@PPCO.COM>
Subject: Re: Troop Planning
>How can I get my PLC to plan troop activities?
I don't know what will work for you, but let me describe what we
are doing. It works for us.
We set aside an entire weekend in January for the yearly planning
session (actually we plan about 18 mos) the PLC and the SM and ASM's
arrive on Friday evening for an indoor sleepover. The first evening
is set aside for brainstorming. The troop buys pizza for all the
participants. The adults bring in literature for the boys with
camps, activities, etc. We don't start to narrow down ideas till the
next day. We list things we like to do and things we might like to
try. Boys come up with the ideas. Leaders are moderators and can
provided idea sources. Then the next day we start to actually work
out the schedule. We list themes we'd like that the ideas listed the
night before can fit into.
We then begin to match themes with months. There is some adult
interaction (for instance the boys wanted to schedule canoeing in
February (it doesn't work even here in Houston)) Once the themes and
major activities are matched up, the remaining weekly planning
becomes a cinch.
We break it up every so often with games and team building
exercises. At the end of Saturday we have it outlined. The
Scoutmaster takes the notes and presents it to the committee the
next week for approval.
It becomes a great team building exercise for the boy leaders as
well as a great and fun way to get the boys to plan the year.
>Along similar lines, what can be done to encourage the PLC to
schedule
>some patrol activities, or inter-patrol competition, during
troop meeting
>time?
Do you mean intrapatrol activities or interpatrol activities? Our
meetings typically include a patrol corner where each patrol can
work on the upcoming campout planning or any other activity such as
advancement, etc. The meeting usually has some non competitive game
time or a scoutcraft game.
>Uniform wear is sporadic. Opening ceremonies are invariably a
>recitation of the pledge, law, and oath. (I've nothing against
the
>pledge, law, or oath, but I've nothing against some variety or
>creativity, either.)
Uniform wear has been a constant theme. It is the responsibility
of the SM and the committee to establish uniforming standards for
the unit.
We don't have any significant troubles with uniforming. All boys
are in full uniform (except we go class B in summer mos because it's
so hot in Houston) We have a written uniforming policy. All new
parents are informed of the policy before joining. (If it's a
financial burden, we have a uniform pool to help out) If a boy shows
up without a uniform piece, he is politely asked to get it. Boys
must show up at BOR in full Class A uniform.
There is a book of ideas on openings and closings. Get some ideas
from your Roundtable staff. (Someone help me out here with a book
title?) We don't have much originality in our openings either, but
closings tend to have a little more variety because they get
assigned to individual patrols. Try buying the book for the Troop,
put it in the SPL's hands and ask him to try some of the ideas in
the book over a few weeks. Then get some feedback from the Troop
during your Scoutmaster's minute to see what they think about the
different openings and closings. If you get positive feedback, the
SPL should hear it and be encouraged to continue with a little
variety.
>The troop just completed the team building exercises and
training in the
>SM troop training materials, so the scouts know what is expected
(at
>least in theory).
I think the key to planning is making it fun. I think the key to
uniforming is having a policy and expecting and enforcing that
policy to be maintained.
rwromig@ppco.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 06:58:16 -0500
From: "Greg L. Gough" <ggough@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US>
Subject: Re: Troop Planning
Paul,
You have a tough problem. First, have the Scouts in your Troop
ever seen and been involved in a functioning patrol method patrol?
If not, your task is twice as hard. Here are some ideas:
1. Conduct your 6 month planning on a PLC campout at a special
location.
Throw in plenty of fun leisure activities so that they will want
to participate in future planning sessions.
2. Download the games archive and select 5 - 10 games that relate
to program topics for them to choose from. If they don't like what
you pick this time, you can bet they will ask for the list to create
their own pool next time.
3. Determine what the monthly theme will be, i.e. Woods Wisdom is
a great guide. This lets them focus on the nuts and bolts of the
program.
4. Let the PLC know what you expect. If they don't deliver, be
ready to step in and help them stay on track both in the planning
and the meetings. This is not running the program. This is
developing leadership. Your Scouts will fail if they do not know
what is expected of them or how to achieve it.
Scouting offers the Scouts the opportunity to experience
leadership, make mistakes and learn from them. Yours is no easy task
and I hope these suggestions help.
Yis
Greg Gough
SM Troop 201
Ozark, MO
I used to be an Owl but
I will always be an Eagle!
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 12:46:05 CST
From: Jim Sleezer <JHS8@VM1.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Troop Planning
Paul,
Some of what you describe is typical of many of the units I see,
particularly the idea that activities are troop-based rather than
patrol-based. How many of your patrols have patrol flags or patrol
yells? I saw one SM bring back a lot of patrol orientation by
alerting the scouts one week that the next week he would be asking
them to give their patrol yell as part of the SM minute. Only one
patrol was prepared the next week. He recognized their
accomplishment and asked everyone else to be ready the next week. He
kept at it until patrol yells became a natural part of the SM
minute, usually given in recognition of something that a patrol
member had accomplished at the meeting or in the preceding week.
Then he started on patrol flags. . . .
Without yells and flags, a new scout will have trouble giving his
patrol yell and describing his patrol flag. They won't be able to
meet the requirement for advancement. I never let them off with
"we don't have one."
As for uniforms, I conduct inspections from time to time and
award a patch to the most properly uniformed scout. It only takes a
few times before uniforms become more of a norm.
As for planning. Have you used the troop planning kit? The SM
needs to do some homework up front. I have yet to see a PLC that can
just pickup and do planning for a year. Most can hardly handle more
than one meeting at a time! But, if you provide the proper guidance,
they will fill in more and more of the blanks as you go along. They
have to be trained to plan. And, every year the makeup is different
so you have to plan every year.
I always like to start of the planning period by making sure that
patrols have an opportunity to discuss things before the PLC meets.
This usually means taking time at a troop meeting. I like to start
with a list of themes and get the patrol members to make suggested
changes through their PLs. I encourage PLs to talk to their patrols
about program ideas and I usually mention (as part of SM minute or
announcements) that the patrol members should be prepared with an
idea or two--not a lot, just one or two things they would like to
see the troop do.
We often settled on themes a few weeks before the planning
weekend so there was time to get feedback from the patrols. I also
like to make use of Woods Wisdom as the basis for troop meetings.
PLC chooses to use as is or modify. If they don't modify, I usually
insisted that they follow exactly. After one theme, they are usually
ready to make some modifications to better meet their program needs.
jim Sleezer
Roundtable Commissioner, Pawnee Bill District,
Will Rogers Council Stillwater, OKlahoma JHS8 at OSUVM1.BITNET
JHS8 at VM1.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU (Internet)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 19:42:05 -0400
From: "Lewis P. Orans" <LewisO@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Troop Planning
Have you worked through the Troop Program Planning Kit. It is
exactly on this subject and will lead you, your SPL and PLC
step-by-step thru the annual conference and each other planning
step. Give the Scouts the resources and let them run with it. It may
not be perfect or even up to adult standards, but it will be theirs.
Let them learn with it and redo as needed.
Yours in Scouting
Lew Orans
Sam Houston Area Council
Houston, TX
1/20/96
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